Joel -

Let’s shrug off an examination of the historic realities, dismiss any notion of a link between Tel Aviv and Washington, and highlight Kissinger and Rockerfeller as the real power brokers, the invisible evil; the Carlyle Group is responsible for all the blunders in the White House and for the Palestinian problem! But this means both mainstream and alternative media are missing out on this revealing story, they are all focusing on AIPAC, Cheney’s and Rumsfeld’s office, neoconservatives’ aids and think tanks, the same people investigators and the public eye are after. Sure, the villains have other powerful accomplices, but why not go after the operational and strategic layers from the outset, it seems to yield results, Tom Delay, Bill Frist, Ashcroft, white house staffers and collaborators, media war mongers like Miller, Friedman, Saffire, Blitzer &co. and their bosses. The façade seems to be falling. Who's on your list?

May be it’s enough for you to say I hate these guys, why aren’t you living up to the investigative reporting slogan that greets visitors to your web site? Leave emotions aside and get into examining the strategic and operational blunders in the White House, and the connection to Israel, challenge Friedman or Saffire, blast Kristol, or take a shot at Wolfowitz; Follow an example, you may want to start here and the archives on the topic give you chilling details about the state of affairs of the Foreign Elite TODAY, and about the poisonous fois gras they feed to Americans.

You claim expertise the subject, TODAYwhat’s in your invistigative writing that points to what goes on the hallways of the ruling elite in Washington. And if democracy were working in Israel, how come 99.99999% never voted to denounce and remove their corrupt leaders and install a regional-friendly government that rejects Washington’s hegemony and its billions in annual aid dollars.

You get emotional again when you talk about eyes and legs. I referred to Israel the state, not the people, you also distance yourself from your government, a corrupt puppet as you say, well then, produce figures of Israeli public votes against war during past wars or military strikes, or right now as Israel calls for attacks on neighboring countries. I find myself asking the same question: how is democracy working in Israel? do the 99.99999% who, according to you, don’t cheer for the government, simply nod instead? How do they see their chances in the event of a fading US influence and a drying well?

Politically, Israel used to be the subcontractor, that part is true; but today it’s the conduit. The elastic and creative amalgam of ethnicity and religion which American Jews created fostered a "style" that pervaded and serves as model for Americans to emulate. The ideology of the Jewish neocons is one of acceleration and can be traced back to 1960, the Jewish Elite (academic) was born, in their increasing number in the fifties they were called the "new elite class". A 1907 discussion by Dr. Israel Friedlaender, an east European professor at the Jewish Theological Seminary of America  offered a vision for American Jews that puts the development of Jewish neocon ideology in prospective. 

The 99.99999% of tiny Israel are blamed, yes, if they are in a democracy, then that’s how they vote, if they live in a tyrannical militaristic society then why call Israel a democracy. Reluctance is justified, any challenge to the status quo cuts into the money supply from the US, the lifeline of Israel’s domestic and military budget. You can’t have it both ways, Israel is a military state and not a democracy. And only in a tyranny citizens can’t vote down a warmonger and a corrupt government. When you say how much of what the 99.99999% think matters anyway, you confess to living in a society where nothing can change. How can anyone help? Do you guys need outside help?

It’s expected you would have interesting details about the Foreign Elite and their sinister plans taking into account your many years and wealth of reporting for The Wall Street Journal and Forbes, two of the Foreign Elite favorite publications and ones that represent only the views of the highest echelon of society in apartheid like US, that does give you an insider’s prospective! What credibility does that do you, or do the thousands of articles and research you ran on their behalf? That’s up to you to decide! How does that tie into the investigative reporting banner statement on your site? How does it speak about the bulk of your writing career? Would there have been a Bainerman without WSJ and Forbes?

You deny massacres against Palestinians, and you justify war against Iraq! You believe that there is a thriving hi-tech industry in Israel, yet the entire economy output and profit wouldn’t be enough to pay off loans or stop the largest aid US taxpayers give to Israel’s government. Sure Israel is an entrepreneurial culture where many can make a good living even without formal education, such as in your case, but it’s also a country where the Hi-Tech industry, that you highlighted, is primarily contracted by security agencies and army related organizations.

Quick judgment never yields good results; I will not comment on your personal attacks against me, which can be a result of frustration or simply part of your intellectual stock according to NYT.

When you’re ready for an objective exchange, I’ll welcome your contact as I did two weeks ago.

(Ismail in Italic)
 
Joel -
It's important when we talk about Foreign Elite that we understand who we’re talking about. It’s as equally important to remain on that level and not to delve into which local puppet sucks his thumb longer when the cookie jar is empty. And perhaps we can easily refer to the Foreign Elite as the Imperialist Elite; after all, what is a powerful foreigner’s business on someone else's property?
 
Yes. Imperialism. That is the "mainstream, accepted term" if you will. They want to control the region's resources- and to do that- need a conflict between Israel and the Arabs to keep everyone off balance- and to enable them to some in and say, "hey, look over here- we have a "new peace initiative" so you have to listen to us. Ever wonder why all the "peace initiatives" all original abroad? By the way, if we are talking about the reason why Israel was created- it was for the Rothschilds to have a way to ensure that if they ever needed to defend the Suez Canal which they financed- they would need friendly forces on the ground. That is why the French Rothschilds financed Rishon Lezion and Zichron Yaacov in 1870- and why when Hertz went to them for help- they threw him out of the office. Their agenda wasn't political Zionism- that was the British Rothschilds who knocked off Herzl and took over the Zionist movement so they could control real estate in the Middle East next to the oil fields (don't forget the British Rothschilds and the Samuels family in the UK controlled Baku oil fields. By 1905 they knew full well the region was full of oil which by then- had become a world commodity- which it wasn't in 1870 when French Rothschilds made their first investments in the region. 35 years is a long time to fund Jewish settlement in Palestine without a political ideology behind it. The English Rothschilds stole the Zionist political ideology of Herzl- and used it as a way to be able to divide the Arabs- to seize Arab resources. Unless we first clarify the origins of the conflict we can't pretend to have the solutions in how to solve it.
 
Israel is not an organic part of the Middle East, how can it be? It has ongoing conflicts and wars with its neighbors; it's building a wall to fence itself in!, and is currently calling for attacks on Syria, Iran, Sudan and southern Lebanon!, what else can you conclude from the Palestinian and Arab street public opinion? Today, Israel exists without organic roots in this region.
 
Wait a minute. Israel isn't just what Sharon says. It is about the 14 million eyes, arms and legs of Israeli citizens- that is what is organic. Just because Sharon decided there needs to be a fence- is because he was told to build it. Nobody consulted the 7 million Israeli citizens on whether they wanted a fence. Or wars. Or believe it is good to call for attacks on their neighbors. Just like the Arab masses can really find a way to deal with Israel and its existence- so too are Israelis capable of living with their neighbors. Sharon's promises to his foreign controllers is where the problem lies. I suggest you recognize this- and point your finger to the guilty parties- and ask "who is really pulling the strings here." The 99.99999% of Israeli who don't make these decisions are not to be blamed. As for Palestinian and Arab public opinion- give me a break. To what extent does anything they say or think matter in the scheme of things? The Israelis are at least giving back something to the space they are occupying in the region. What are the majority of the Arab populations doing to enhance the region? That may sound racist- but it is the truth. Israel is not only an organic part of the region (because they exist- therefore they are- regardless of what Arab intellectuals belch out about "the legitimacy of Israel's right to exist" (interesting how nobody every said Kuwait and Saudi Arabia have no right to exist- which they don't- as they were artificially created- like most of the Arab states in the region) Israel is here- working hard- and producing for the benefit of mankind.
 
The place is one of the world's leading laboratories and sources of the newest and most beneficial technologies to mankind. It is a high tech carnival. So excuse me if I don't get all up in arms when Israel doesn't behave the way it should- the fact is most of Israel- most Israelis- are doing just fine. Take a look at the country- the standard of living- the way of life- is phenomenal. Life in Israel 30 years ago was shit- and you had to be crazy to remain there. Today everything is world class- leading edge- even government services are better in Israel than they are in the US. And please don't tell me Israel is doing so well because it exploits the Arabs. That is crap. The component of Arab workers in the economy is minimal compared to before the first Intifada. Israel is doing well because it tries hard to succeed and is comprised of a hell a lot of brilliant people- who aren't sitting around all day burning flags of other nations- but instead- are building- creating- being productive.
 
It's naive to only say that the Zionist lobby may have been sponsored by the ruling empires. The self-interest of the Zionist lobby was exchanged for the self-interest of empires.
 
That is a mega conspiracy theory- and I don't buy it. Today the Zionist lobby could be shut down completely in the US- and nothing would change in the region. This idea that Israelis control foreign governments is stupid and not back up by any logic. I don't buy it and refuse to accept it until it can be proven that Sharon tells Bush and Chaney what to do because of powerful Jews that control the US government.
 
That bond is seen today in the make up of the relationship that governs US, UK, and Israel. There are no new revelations today other than utter failure to execute their geo-strategic plan for the region. 
 
Israel is a subcontractor for whatever the Anglo-American power elite want to do- nothing more. Don't play into the game of those that say Israel tells America what to do. They don't. Europeans, and the Anglo America elite tell Israeli leaders what to do- not the other way around.
 
Why do you play me too? Israel's organic dilemma is not particularly with the Arabs but with the Palestinians. If you continue to believe that Palestinians have been better off under occupation then you're parroting Israeli right wing propaganda and Bush's propaganda on Iraq. And by that you condone massacres, assassinations, and land grab by saying that's just one part of the experience.
 
I never said that at all. The fact is there may never be a Palestinian state- and not because Israel doesn't want it- but because the foreign elite don't want it. Not every population of people or separate Arab ethnic group has to have a national state. The world won't change when the Palestinian have a state- or if they never do. These are facts- not opinions. You can't tell me my opinions are parroting Israeli right wing propaganda and still expect to have a dialogue with me. I hate AIPAC, Sharon and ADL- trust me- I do. I won't defend them. Bush's propaganda on Bush is of no concern to me because he is a puppet- and not pulling any strings- that has to be clear to all. As for the massacres these don't occur in my region. The conflict with the Palestinians leads to death- on both sides- three times as many Palestinians than Israelis- but don't throw that word "massacres" at me. Massacres are when tens of thousands of people are killed. Never has that happened with the Palestinians. Even in four years of intifada about 1500 Palestinians have been killed- about 700 Israelis (I think these are the numbers- I may be off slightly). There are no massacres by Israel of Palestinians. As for assassinations- yes, Israel knocks off Palestinians armed gunman- this can't be denied. You seem to think these people deserve any better of a fate? Is Hamas supposed to be full of good, decent, honorable, peace-loving people that deserve not to face the bullets of their enemy guns? They could have joined the peace process way back then. They don't have to be "radical". So if those assassinations you are referring to- I am happy they take place. Hamas is scum- whether they are a creation of Israeli or British or US intelligence- back in the 1980s- is irrelevant. They are still full of and attract scum- and deserve not to be treated as human beings. Israel made peace with the PLO- they could have to. They chose not to.
 
As for land grabs- I can't deny that Palestinians have lost their land to Israelis over the decades- and continue to do so today. This is an undeniable fact that no one can deny. But even so, yes, these is  one part of the experience. Palestinians suffer when the conflict is not solved. I agree 100% and it is not fear. They don't keep the conflict going and they shouldn't have to keep on paying the price.
 
You say Who do you think created and directed the initiative for Israel to pull out of Gaza? The agenda was to create a new war front- albeit a low-intensity one- like in Lebanon. It had nothing to do with what Sharon wanted or believed in. This is part of the American plan to keep everything thinking that they are creating peace
While my sources agree that the premise was to create a low intensity war front, they think he missed the mark on the initial insinuation and the latter assertion. Sharon needed the pullout of Gaza, as a unilateral response to implementing the roadmap, and further needed the facade of peace to appropriate Palestinian land through settlement expansion and the route of the apartheid wall.
 
Please. It isn't Sharon's road map- it originates in the US. The foreign elite. It is exactly what I am saying. Why are you associating the move to Sharon when he is not the originator of the plan. Obviously, being the prime minister of Israel- he has to be the one to carry it out. But so what?
 
As for the "façade of peace", I don't know who you are talking to in Israel- but nobody I know thinks the pullout from Gaza would bring peace- or that peace has been created as a result of it.
 
Sharon, a student of Ben Gurion, is striving to get as much contiguous Israeli land as possible (which now is still technically held by Palestinians in the West Bank and East Jerusalem) and lacked the necessity to hold on to the Gaza Strip through settlements.
 
Any Israeli right wing leader could have done the same thing decades ago- and never did. You put too much faith in Sharon's grand plans. He is not the problem here- it is those who tell him what to do. I don't know how many times I can keep saying this but you keep telling me Sharon is the problem. Enough all ready. He is not in charge any more than Peres is in charge of what he says and does.
 
It's disingenuous to assert that it is American/Foreign Elites pulling the strings of the Israeli puppets. If you look at the boldness of Weisglass, Mofaz, and Sharon, one can easily see what their convictions are. Sharon and his Israeli counterparts have a vision, and an ally in America, not the other way around.
 
OK, well then you know nothing of world power structures. The agenda in the Middle East has always been controlled from outside- and while you may think Mofaz and Weisglass and Sharon are pulling strings- and what they think matter- you are hopefully out to lunch. I can't say anymore without insulting you. Stop giving me this line that these jerks who I watch on my TV screen are the ones in charge. They do what they are told to do- just like Bibi, Barak, Peres and Rabin did before them. Do me a favor- go into the internet and read some of the world by Barry Chamish on how the CFR controls Middle East diplomacy. He has been writing about this subject for ten years- and is right on. You don't know about these subjects because the context of your debate is limited. He is not a right wing propagandist- nor a left wing Israeli. His views are the core of the issue. If you aren't prepared to read how he views diplomacy in the region- and how the CFR controls the events- then not much use in us continuing our conversation. We have to agree to disagree. I don't buy into your theory that Mofaz, Weisglass and Sharon are the ones to blame. The ones to blame don't living in Israel- and are much, much, more richer and powerful than these guys. 

Today, it seems that the commandeers of American foreign policy for the Middle East, the very people that I and many consider to be the Imperialist Elites are busy facing prosecutors, charges and scandals about their destructive policies and deception. Do they have the time or chance to effectively influence the Israeli Arab conflict? 
 
Of course- they have all the power they ever had. What makes you think they have lost any oft heir power? And tell me- who do you think are facing these charges? They aren't the ones in charge- they are the puppets.
 
Will they be around tomorrow? Not likely considering the severity of the charges against them.
 
They will all be around tomorrow- because 1) none of these so called "scandals" will bring down anyone- and if they do- they won't be bringing down the ones in charge.
 
Your conspiracy theory is null without proof when you say  "I believe that the whole reason for there being so many Jews in the higher echelons of the foreign policy establishment in the Bush Administration is so that they, or "the Jews" can be blamed as the reason why the US has failed in Iraq- or elsewhere. Not because any of these "Neo-Cons" have any real power over Bush and Chaney." 
You're turning tables around, while ongoing White House investigations are gearing to prove otherwise. When you say: "I also don't buy into this notion that "neo-cons" have hijacked US foreign policy in the Middle East. Bush and Chaney don't take orders from them- they take orders from the real power brokers- not the Neo-Cons." You will have to elaborate on who are the real power brokers you refer to, if not the former?
 
These investigations are justified- but won't root out the evil. Please- stop being so naïve. A few guys on the low end will be roasted- that's all.
 
I don't deny they are all Jews- I deny that they are sources of power. They have been placed there. By who? Try Kissinger and Rockefeller and the other doyens of the foreign policy establishment in the US- most if not all are not Jewish (although Kissinger is-what ever he is doing he is not doing it on behalf or for any Jewish organization)
 
The Imperialist Elites have been housed in the US for decades; chiefly among them are the very descendants of the Zionist lobbyists. In the past they lobbied for an Israeli state, today as we can see they are lobbying for a redraw of the Middle East map and politics.
 
You are talking with no background of what "imperialistic elites" are and you are throwing you're the term "Zionist lobbyists" in because that is the vernacular you know. You are missing out on an entire component of world political power- and how and why elites rule. When it comes to the Middle East- if you are interested in expanding your horizons on this issue- buy a few of Barry's books (you can email him- and arrange it, chamish@netvision.net.il or download a bunch of his articles- which can be found on hundreds of websites- a simple search of his name on Google is all that is needed). Then we can have this discussion again. I refuse to be drawn into debates with you about subjects such as "imperialist elites" when you don't have the background or facts and are trying to find holes in my arguments without knowing the story as I know it- and without the background I have. I'm not being arrogant or conceited- I am stating a reality. I can suggest Barry's work- and few other good books on this subject of how the foreign elites control the Middle East conflict. You have to first accept your lack of knowledge on the subject- and then read the material- and then we can have a debate on a more level playing field.
 
I've agreed with your analysis of different drivers of the conflict, but why shy away from identifying members of the powerhouse Foreign Elite by name and by organization?
 
Not easy. The Bilderburgers has a say in the matter. As does the EU- the Vatican, the Anglo-American power elite. Some more than others. Some elite interests are interlocking.
 
In conclusion- what I will say is this: the Arab- and their supporters outside the region- have even more of a reason to know the true history of how the foreign elite have manipulated the events in the region- and stop thinking what they did they did solely to further Zionist interests. That's a part of the answer- but by far- not the whole story. Israelis would do well to know all this- but let's face it- even if the Israelis never know the full story- they are living in a very pleasant place- and having but confidence and hope for the future- with or without a continued conflict. This is what you seem to miss. The Arab masses are living like shit. They are the ones along with the Palestinians that suffer the most when the foreign elites stick their claws into the events of the region- and keep the status quo of changing for a better future.
 
The Arab masses have the most to gain by expunging these foreign elite from the region- all of the region- not just Israel/Palestine.  How much more proof is there to this statement than what is going on today in Iraq. The people of Iraq would have been much, much better off by having Saddam as their leader/dictator- without a doubt. You can tell me, "Israel prodded America to war" but

Joel –

It’s important when we talk about Foreign Elite that we understand who we’re talking about. It’s as equally important to remain on that level and not to delve into which local puppet sucks his thumb longer when the cookie jar is empty. And perhaps we can easily refer to the Foreign Elite as the Imperialist Elite; after all, what is a powerful foreigner’s business on someone else’s property?

Israel is not an organic part of the Middle East, how can it be? It has ongoing conflicts and wars with its neighbors; it’s building a wall to fence itself in!, and is currently calling for attacks on Syria, Iran, Sudan and southern Lebanon!, what else can you conclude from the Palestinian and Arab street public opinion?

Today, Israel exists without organic roots in this region.

It’s naive to only say that the Zionist lobby may have been sponsored by the ruling empires. The self-interest of the Zionist lobby was exchanged for the self-interest of empires. That bond is seen today in the make up of the relationship that governs US, UK, and Israel. There are no new revelations today other than utter failure to execute their geo-strategic plan for the region. 

Why do you play me too? Israel’s organic dilemma is not particularly with the Arabs but with the Palestinians. If you continue to believe that Palestinians have been better off under occupation then you’re parroting Israeli right wing propaganda and Bush’s propaganda on Iraq. And by that you condone massacres, assassinations, and land grab by saying that’s just one part of the experience.

You say Who do you think created and directed the initiative for Israel to pull out of Gaza? The agenda was to create a new war front- albeit a low-intensity one- like in Lebanon. It had nothing to do with what Sharon wanted or believed in. This is part of the American plan to keep everything thinking that they are creating peace

While my sources agree that the premise was to create a low intensity war front, they think he missed the mark on the initial insinuation and the latter assertion. Sharon needed the pullout of Gaza, as a unilateral response to implementing the roadmap, and further needed the facade of peace to appropriate Palestinian land through settlement expansion and the route of the apartheid wall. Sharon, a student of Ben Gurion, is striving to get as much contiguous Israeli land as possible (which now is still technically held by Palestinians in the West Bank and East Jerusalem) and lacked the necessity to hold on to the Gaza Strip through settlements. So the seige of Gaza continues, internal strife intensifies, and settlements and the wall continue its "land grab." The second intifada was the sacrifice for the greater Israeli state, and as it goes now, the Israeli state doesn't have to surrender many lives to gain precious land throughout the occupied West Bank and East Jerusalem. It’s disingenuous to assert that it is American/Foreign Elites pulling the strings of the Israeli puppets. If you look at the boldness of Weisglass, Mofaz, and Sharon, one can easily see what their convictions are. Sharon and his Israeli counterparts have a vision, and an ally in America, not the other way around.

Today, it seems that the commandeers of American foreign policy for the Middle East, the very people that I and many consider to be the Imperialist Elites are busy facing prosecutors, charges and scandals about their destructive policies and deception. Do they have the time or chance to effectively influence the Israeli Arab conflict?  Will they be around tomorrow? Not likely considering the severity of the charges against them.

Your conspiracy theory is null without proof when you say  “I believe that the whole reason for there being so many Jews in the higher echelons of the foreign policy establishment in the Bush Administration is so that they, or "the Jews" can be blamed as the reason why the US has failed in Iraq- or elsewhere. Not because any of these "Neo-Cons" have any real power over Bush and Chaney.” 

You’re turning tables around, while ongoing White House investigations are gearing to prove otherwise. When you say: “I also don't buy into this notion that "neo-cons" have hijacked US foreign policy in the Middle East. Bush and Chaney don't take orders from them- they take orders from the real power brokers- not the Neo-Cons.” You will have to elaborate on who are the real power brokers you refer to, if not the former?

The Imperialist Elites have been housed in the US for decades; chiefly among them are the very descendants of the Zionist lobbyists. In the past they lobbied for an Israeli state, today as we can see they are lobbying for a redraw of the Middle East map and politics.

I’ve agreed with your analysis of different drivers of the conflict, but why shy away from identifying members of the powerhouse Foreign Elite by name and by organization?

Amr:

You wrote:

I find the most telling thing about the conflict is its inception in 1903.

What event are you referring to that took place in 1903?  

European Jews who facilitated the creation of Israel were undoubtedly part of that Foreign Elites

Yes, but no less than many of the Arab leaders who were put into power by the Foreign Elites- to serve not the interests of the Arab masses- but foreign interests. One has to wonder what the region would look like today had these Arab puppets of foreign elites not been put into power by the foreigners? I assume the Middle East would be a lot more advanced, democratic- and productive. My point is by saying, "Europeans Jews who facilitated the creation of Israel were undoubtedly part of that Foreign Elites" it assumes all this was bad- and led to the conflict. While it could be argued that this created economic and social division- and eventually a regional conflict- the wider Middle East was no less altered by these foreign elites. At least in the case of the European Jews (who may have been sponsored by the foreign elites but were by no means doing anything other than for self-interest) they eventually became an organic part of the region- for better for worse. One can rant and rave about Israeli oppression- but go look at Palestinian farming methods and their cities- and ask what they would look like had there never been an Israel? The Palestinians and the Israeli Arabs have faced discrimination and oppression- but that is just one part of the experience. Had there been no Israel- Jordan- or some other Middle East ruler would have dominated and oppressed the Arabs of Palestine- and believe me- they would not be living anywhere near the standard of living these populations currently are.

The last thing I want to do is parrot Israeli right wing propaganda- however let's be honest: not everything about Jewish immigration to the Middle East has been bad and that while in the early years the British may have used the Jews for their own interests- that's not the case anymore. If the foreign elites didn't corrupt Israeli and Palestinian leaders there would have been peace decades ago. Yes, the Jews would still have dominated economically- true- but that is inevitable considering the starting point.

In light of today’s international relations realities, we can assume that the absence of today’s Foreign Elites from the spectrum of Middle East’ internal affairs – as you yourself have given them so much credit for steering the conflict – is but a welcome giant step towards peace between Arabs and Israelis.

What makes you claim they are absent? Who do you think created and directed the initiative for Israel to pull out of Gaza? The agenda was to create a new war front- albeit a low-intensity one- like in Lebanon. It had nothing to do with what Sharon wanted or believed in. This is part of the American plan to keep everything thinking that they are creating peace- just like they did with Oslo- when in reality they are merely creating new facts on the ground which will continue the conflict- not solve it.

It could be more direct to steer towards a solution by chasing after the core of Foreign Elites who have sinister and imperial plans for the Middle East region, as it turns out, that cabal has one foot in an extreme Zionist ideology and an evangelic dogma, and the other foot in a crumbling economic structure. An examination of that Cabal is worthy of the discussion.

I'm sorry, but I don’t buy this "evangelical influence" on any of the foreign elites. The foreign powerbrokers aren't born-again Christians- and don’t need to do anything to placate this group. I also don't buy into this notion that "neo-cons" have hijacked US foreign policy in the Middle East. Bush and Chaney don't take orders from them- they take orders from the real power brokers- not the Neo-Cons. I believe that the whole reason for there being so many Jews in the higher echelons of the foreign policy establishment in the Bush Administration is so that they, or "the Jews" can be blamed as the reason why the US has failed in Iraq- or elsewhere. Not because any of these "Neo-Cons" have any real power over Bush and Chaney.

Joel –

Shifting the blame game between Palestinians and Israelis to the Foreign Elites is still playing the blame game. I find the most telling thing about the conflict is its inception in 1903. In order for us to clearly define the identity and role of the Foreign Elites, we need to revisit how 1903 Palestine looked like, we need to examine some facts about what transpired on this land and what happened to its inhabitants between 1903 and 1948.

The conflict became an international political crisis around 1948. It’s essential to give history its dues, but it’s as important to swiftly move forward beyond 2005 to seek a solution for modern day Israel and Palestine.

You touch on some historical points as you write; yet you chose to leave out the make up and progression of the Foreign Elites and where we can find their ideologues today! Many view the American neoconservatives and their allies in the UK as the Foreign Elites and not the entire West, their intellect is shaped by a Zionist ideology, and a wealth of knowledge and tactics from both the former British and German powers.

A Historic Prospective: Examining the origins of the conflict

To understand the core and essence of the Middle East conflict, we need to acknowledge the following historical realities:

The economic and social status of 19th century Jews in Europe: the inception and development of the Zionist movement as a pan European national movement

The relationship between the Zionist movement and European empires. Here we look at the Zionist organization efforts to gain recognition, sympathy and promises of a homeland from imperial powers; we examine the interests of the then world superpowers; we view how the scheme to occupy the land of Palestine was organized based on Hertzel’s writings

Palestine before the immigration of European Jews. Here we look at the geo-political status of the land and the economic development of Palestinians; we observe the arrival of the European settlers and the organizational, economic and political conditions that governed the expansion of the settlements, we follow the development of these settlements until world war I, we take a close look at the flourishing of the settlements under British rule. We learn how these settlements built a common defense structure.

How the land ownership was transferred to the European Jews. Here we look at two different periods: 1919-1939 and 1940-1948

The end of British rule in Palestine and the UN decision to partition the land. Here we examine the wars of 1947-1949 and then we look at the building of an Israeli state infrastructure. Here we find the roots of Yasser Arafat’s resistance movement.

The annexation of East Jerusalem, the West Bank and Gaza in 1967. Here we find the roots of the Intifada

The massive development of settlements in occupied land until the present day.

It’s key to look in depth at the historic realities to understand the origins of the conflict. European Jews who facilitated the creation of Israel were undoubtedly part of that Foreign Elites

Looking at the conflict beyond 2005: Looming shuffle in the imperial landscape

The Middle East conflict is possibly being transformed as a result of the following geo-political strategic shifts:

The decline of American hegemony and the emergence of a multi-polar powerhouse led by Europe and Asia.

The changing demographics and political will of Palestinians

The conditional recognition of Israel by the Arab League and the establishment of ties between some Arab states and Israel

The diminishing role of Zionists lobbyists in the Imperial political sphere

The reluctance and inability of Israelis to determine their political identity.

The political winds of change in the Arab street

In light of today’s international relations realities, we can assume that the absence of today’s Foreign Elites from the spectrum of Middle East’ internal affairs – as you yourself have given them so much credit for steering the conflict – is but a welcome giant step towards peace between Arabs and Israelis.

How do you envision such an assumption?

Why do I have doubts that the Israeli political left and liberals are as mute as their US counterparts? Isn’t democracy working in Israel?

It could be more direct to steer towards a solution by chasing after the core of Foreign Elites who have sinister and imperial plans for the Middle East region, as it turns out, that cabal has one foot in an extreme Zionist ideology and an evangelic dogma, and the other foot in a crumbling economic structure. An examination of that Cabal is worthy of the discussion.

Yet remains the question: Is Israel, in its current political structure, capable of accepting the Palestinian democratic process and the political integration of all Palestinian groups?

Can this be done between Palestinians and Israelis and no third party?

As you see, there are lots of question marks, Where would you begin?

This collection of observations was compiled to help Jews and Arabs understand why the Middle East conflict continues to fester. The intention is to promote the realization that these two peoples are not each other’s worst enemy; a third player, the Foreign Elite  (FE), is why the Middle East remains unstable.

A truly objective analysis of this subject, without the baggage Jews and Arabs have been fed via their national leaderships, reveals that the Middle East conflict would have ended decades ago had foreigners not kept it alive. The continuation of the conflict serves their interests- i.e.,  oil supplies, recycling petrodollars, or multi-billion dollar weapons sales. The Palestinian-Israeli “situation” is thus merely a fig leaf for the FE, allowing their other agendas can be pursued undetected.